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Old 12-04-2009, 12:24 AM
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I was thinking of trying a new strategy for building my bankroll on line using SNGs. Let me know what you think:

Start with 40 buy-ins at the $5 SNGs.

When I win a SNG I move up a level.

If I win a $5 SNG. I move onto a $10.

If I move to the $10. I play this level until I win(moving to the $20 SNG), cash( 2nd or 3rd stay at $10 level), or bust(move back down to the $5's).


When I reach 40 buy-ins for $10 level SNGs, it becomes my new starting level.

I posted a similar thread on another forum, but have not had much of a response. I made some minor changes with this post. I lowered the min. amount of buy-ins and changed the starting level.
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I was thinking of trying a new strategy for building my bankroll on line using SNGs. Let me know what you think:

Start with 40 buy-ins at the $5 SNGs.
is 40 enough?

When I win a SNG I move up a level.
too soon

If I win a $5 SNG. I move onto a $10.
win 1 and move?? bad idea - better to build a smaller bk roll and then move on

If I move to the $10. I play this level until I win(moving to the $20 SNG), cash( 2nd or 3rd stay at $10 level), or bust(move back down to the $5's).


When I reach 40 buy-ins for $10 level SNGs, it becomes my new starting level.

I posted a similar thread on another forum, but have not had much of a response. I made some minor changes with this post. I lowered the min. amount of buy-ins and changed the starting level.
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i won't continue i'd say you are jumping too far ahead of yourself - allow for variance - your not gonna win em all

slow slow work it over time - patience is a virtue

u seem too want to jump too fast - what if u lose?

bankroll management is as it says management!

take ur time - play the lower stakes enough until you have enough to lose a few higher stakes games - just in-case

the idea is good but life don't work like that!

play within ur limits and always use patience....

gl at the tables hope this helps!

gl either way!

I do hope you get what you want!
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Old 12-04-2009, 04:35 AM
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Default Bankroll management by Chris Ferguson (**WOS @SU)







Bankroll management by Chris Ferguson

Starting from Zero

Chris Ferguson

April 30th, 2007



I'm almost a year into an experiment on Full Tilt Poker. I'm attempting to turn $0 into a $10,000 bankroll. With no money to start with, I had no choice but to start out playing Freerolls. Starting out, I'd often manage to win a dollar or two, but I'd quickly get busted and have to start over again. It took some time but, after awhile, I was eventually able to graduate to games that required an actual buy-in.

Even today, people don't believe it's really me when I sit down at Full Tilt's small stakes games. They ask what I'm doing down here, and often tell me stories about how they turned $5 into $500 or $100 into $1,000. Usually, these stories end with the person telling me that they went broke. There's no surprise there. These folks tried to quickly build a bankroll by gambling. They'd play in a game that was beyond their bankroll and, if they happened to win, they'd move up to a higher limit and risk it all one more time. Inevitably, they'd lose a few big hands and go broke.

For me, this experiment isn't about the money. It's about showing how, with proper bankroll management, you can start from nothing and move up to the point where you're playing in some pretty big games. I know it's possible because I did it once before, turning $1 into $20,000.

To ensure that I keep my bankroll intact, I've adopted some key rules:

* I'll never buy into a cash game or a Sit & Go with more than 5 percent of my total bankroll (there is an exception for the lowest limits: I'm allowed to buy into any game with a buy-in of $2.50 or less).
* I won't buy into a multi-table tournament for more than 2 percent of my total bankroll and I'm allowed to buy into any multi-table tournament that costs $1.
* If at any time during a No-Limit or Pot-Limit cash-game session the money on the table represents more than 10 percent of my total bankroll, I must leave the game when the blinds reach me.

I think a lot of players would do well to apply these rules. One great benefit from this approach to bankroll management is that it ensures you'll be playing in games you can afford. You'll never play for very long in a game that's over your head because, when you're losing, you'll have no choice but to drop down to a smaller game. You can continue to sharpen your game at that lower limit until your bankroll allows you to move up and take another shot. These rules also prevent you from being completely decimated by a bad run of cards.

Dropping down and playing lower limits is difficult for a lot of players. They view it as a failure and their egos get in the way. Many want to remain at the level they'd been playing and win back their losses. But this can lead to some pretty severe tilt - and that can go through a bankroll in a hurry. I know that dropping down was difficult for me in my run from $1 to $20,000. When I first played in the $25/$50 game, I lost. Sticking to my rules, I dropped down to the $10/$25 game. I had a losing streak there and had to go down to $5/$10. That was tough. After playing $25/$50, a $5/$10 game was boring to me.

But I had the discipline to stick to my rules, and that motivated me to play better at the lower levels. I really didn't want to lose any more because I knew the consequences: I'd have to play even lower and work even harder to get back to where I'd been, which could take as long as a month. If you ever find yourself bored or frustrated playing at the lower limits, you're obviously not playing well. Take a break from the game. Often, stepping away can give you a fresh perspective and heightened motivation to play well when you return.

There are a couple of more tips I'd like to share regarding bankroll management. First, you should never play in a game that is beyond your bankroll simply because the game seems to be soft that day. It's never soft enough to risk money that puts your bankroll in jeopardy. The other point is that you should avoid playing in games that are at the top of your bankroll limits, when a lower game offers more opportunity for profit.


I'm confident that by sticking to these sound bankroll management rules, I'll make it to my $10,000 goal. These rules are sure to help you as well, as you pursue your own poker ambitions.

Chris Ferguson






this is a post I read, long ago,
when my bankroll, starts to fall
I go back & read this again
I'd like to thank a fellow player for making the original post
for if he didn't, I dont think I would have a roll, anywhere
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in the above post
the percentages of his bankroll HE uses
is HIGHER than, other bankroll mgmnt guides

but he is a pro


rule of thumb
dont think about going higher than that


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really good post mjoshin125, thanks for the read
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my br startegy is keep cashing in tourneys was way ahead in this one and fell asleep at the keyboard work has been brutal woke up game over wife screaming oops. took 5th though for $7 not shabby was 22 left last i remember.
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The Chris Ferguson bankroll management guide is in video form on Full Tilt Academy and you can watch it for free...along with some other great videos that will help your game.
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Using this strategy you never drop below 40 buyins at your starting level. Unless you run bad at that level.

The strategy maxs. a good run, while maintaining a bankroll at an acceptible level.
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I attempted this playing in sit and go and have made progress... but as always end up going up broke... I think the most important is staying on our comfort zone and not try to move up to quickly...
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I read this before... but lke everyone else I cant seem be patient and not try to move up to quickly
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